How would you say 'a fork is a tool you eat with'?

2018-06-19 10:01:13

It's kind of a silly sentence, but I was wondering how you would get the で particle's meaning into a modified noun. Like you could say 'フォークで食べる' but how could you turn that into a noun? I hope this makes sense.

Generally, で is not used like フォークは食べるための道具. If you want to use で no matter what, you can say フォークはそれで食べるための道具, but it is wordy.

Nouns marked by the particle で (of means) can be relativized, but saying

?フォークは食べる道具です。

I think would be too ambiguous. People would think "A fork is a tool you eat."

To disambiguate, you can explicitly include an object:

フォークはものを食べる道具です。 A fork is tool you eat things with.

  • Generally, で is not used like フォークは食べるための道具. If you want to use で no matter what, you can say フォークはそれで食べるための道具, but it is wordy.

    2018-06-19 10:36:50
  • Nouns marked by the particle で (of means) can be relativized, but saying

    ?フォークは食べる道具です。

    I think would be too ambiguous. People would think "A fork is a tool you eat."

    To disambiguate, you can explicitly include an object:

    フォークはものを食べる道具です。 A fork is tool you eat things with.

    2018-06-19 11:23:18